Guest Post: Anthony Madrid on John Ashbery
[I recently mentioned to my personal trainer, the poet Anthony Madrid, author of The 580 Strophes, that I was writing about John Ashbery's Planisphere for the LRB. He suggested we read it together & compare notes. When I saw that his notes were growing as extensive as my own, I asked him to write them up for this space. This is the first installment; I hope the loyal readers of DE are as pleased with the results as I am. —mr]
ONGOING PLANISPHERE NOTEBOOK
Anthony Madrid
1.
People are much too free with the phrase “a great book of poetry.” They think if the book has ten really good pieces in it then it’s a great book.
They don’t talk that way about albums. For it to be a great album it can’t just have some hits. You have to consider the not-hits, too. I wanna say: If you simply skip over the not-hits with no regret whatsoever, you can’t really call it a great album.
77 Dream Songs has twenty, maybe thirty jewels. Plenty of the not-jewels are more or less unintelligible. Yet you regret skipping them. Somehow they contribute something to the overall presentation; you never wish ’em away. Shakespeare’s sonnets—same thing. Heaven knows one does pick up these books and skip to the best stuff. But one regrets it.
Now compare all that with, for example, Yeats’s The Tower. There, you have plenty of hits, but you skip over the other stuff quite, quite gladly. It’s boring. You have to assign the not-hits to yourself like homework. I do, anyway. Planisphere, meanwhile, is almost exactly the reverse. The hits are in rather short supply—but you really do wish you could take in the whole thing, every time you read any of it.
Trying to pick out anthology pieces from Planisphere would be like trying to take excerpts from a CD of whale songs. You don’t put that stuff on for five minutes.
And actually, you could say this is a large part of the nerviness of Ashbery’s work. He has dared—for fifty years—to be supremely unportable.
2.
On the other hand, if an editor were prepared to concoct an Ashbery “Selected” in total defiance of any and all expectations—principally the expectation that such a collection ought to contain pieces representative of the poet’s oeuvre as a whole + a more or less even distribution of poems, starting with Some Trees and ending with Planisphere—if, I say, an editor could forget about all that, he or she could deliver an Ashbery hitherto unsuspected by his detractors, and, to a lesser extent, unsuspected by his admirers.
A fine samizdat project for some enterprising young citizen.
(I recommend including “The Youth’s Magic Horn” from Hotel Lautréamont, and “… by an Earthquake” from Can You Hear, Bird. From Planisphere: “Default Mode.”)
3.
Actually, now I think of it, another way in which Ashbery is quite portable is on the level of the individual line or ‘bit’. Nothing easier than to gather neat buttons at the button store. Here’s a grab bag.
I’m barely twenty-six, have been on Oprah
and such. [p. 2]
Call me potatoes
and soap. Call me soap and potatoes. [p. 10]
They were living in America further gone into teats. [p. 17]
Ow. In fact ouch. [p. 44]
Refusing to admit
something is the matter with you is like taking
a life. There are no witnesses. [p. 46]
You say your cunning comportment
is artless? Well then so am I
for containing you, champ. [p. 54]
A love like self-love
upgraded to “pastoral.” [p. 68]
Alongside, something was running.
It had a note in its maw. Hey,
give me that, like a good animal.
That’s fine. Now get lost. [p. 89]
… and the boy stands at attention, distracted,
in the sexual chapel surrounded
by correct, cream-colored leaves. [p. 92]
The playoffs—don’t get upset. [p. 96]
He was a very mobile person throughout his life,
instrumental in helping promote the Indians. [p. 98]
What about poisonous sea snakes?
I know one. I bet you do. [p. 107]
Then it’s back to basics, or in
my case forensics. What doesn’t
dapple you makes you strong. [p. 107]
Or ask Leporello. [p. 107]
It was time to drink,
and drink they did until the heavens reopened
and the stars were raked into a pile. [p. 115]
Why what a lovely day/street/
blank canvas/pause/orb/
old person/new song/milestone/
caned seat this is! [p. 119]
So we’ll go no more a-teething. [p. 125]
Claymation is so over. [p. 130]
Here as I have erected
to do is a baseball bat. [p. 132]
It wasn’t meant to stand for what it stood for.
Only a pup tent could do that. [p. 133]
If tact is a mortal sin
we shall not miss. [p. 135]
The above nosegay was not created casually. Those twenty-one items were culled from a batch more than three times that length: a comprehensive transcript of all the passages that are neatly underlined in light green ink, in my copy of Planisphere.
Anyone who has read the book is bound to view the above selection with a pleasant combination of recognition and bewilderment. Anyway, about half the time R. reads me choice bits out of his copy, I think Ah?? now how did that get by me?
After all, though, it’s not too hard to figure thát one out. Book’s a forest litter.
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Anthony Madrid is the author of The 580 Strophes. His manuscript, The Getting Rid of the That Which Cannot Be Done Without, was a finalist for the 2010 Fence Modern Poets Series. His poems are forthcoming in Poetry, Boston Review, and about forty million other journals.

Well, a good enough review to make me look for the book the next time I’m in a city, with money (an unlikely but still oft-planned event). Thank Mr. Madrid remotely, would you? By the wayside, when you say ‘personal trainer’ I think ’spandex’. Do you like word association exercises? Would you wear spandex to do them in, or, like me, have you left that svelte-bellied eagle form behind?
PG
You probably wish you had a signed, first-edition copy of The Tennis Court Oath.
You can still get, for cheap, a signed, first-edition copy of The 580 Strophes.
I said something like that, almost a year ago.
Be smart! Be swift!
“I must say I think reviewing today is at a low ebb. The major papers and journals don’t review serious books, not to mention poetry books, at all, and when they do, and I happen to have read the book, I am appalled by their errors, misstatements, and incomprehension. The smaller reviewing venues, on the other hand, publish only favorable and largely superficial reviews meant to promote the book in question.” – Marjorie Perloff, at Lemon Hound.
Jordan, do you mean to imply that P’s remark applies to the above??
No, I mean to imply that Marjorie Perloff and I are not reading the same newspapers.
Marjorie Perloff, near as I can tell, hasn’t actually read anything well in about twenty years. Unless all she reads are her own reviews, in which case the above comment is rather trenchant, for once.
>Marjorie Perloff, near as I can tell, hasn’t actually read anything well in about twenty years.
That would be ending with what? What was the last thing she “read well”?
You can’t take a shot at distance like that without saying what you’re shooting at.
(Well, you *can*, but…)
Well, well, endless commentary.
Enjoyed the above. But perhaps I am not reading well today.
Btw, I wrote the little bio at the end, not Madrid. That “40 million” line is my ribbing him a little. He’s had 70 poems accepted for publication in the last year.
It wasn’t meant to stand for what it stood for.
Only a pup tent could do that. [p. 133]
He forgot the boat!
Agreed, by the way, about a selected lines.
The British selected from the 60s is a compact marvel, though. I’ve often wished someone would abridge the output of subsequent decades, one at a time, in smallish clothbound editions, suitable for rapping on the heads of terrible poets.