I really thought it quite unlikely that the committee would a) reward the United States; b) reward a city whose principal accomplishment is its middle & upper classes’ indifference to the blithe art of the murder of schoolchildren; c) reward a mayor no less corrupt & incompetent & monomaniacal than his predecessors.
You know, what I wonder is what the hell ordinary Chicagoans think they’d be getting from having the games here. I’ve been reading comments on the Trib’s website, watching reactions from Daley Plaza—you’d think these people would actually have benefited in some tangible way if Chicago had won the bid to host the Olympics in seven years. Why would anyone who isn’t a real estate developer want that circus in town?
I know it’s a lot to process, the insight that the people who make the most noise about some malfeasance are also likely to be the biggest practitioners of said behavior.
Take your time with it. I’ve been holding it at bay for years. It only gets funnier the longer we all postpone accepting it.
I’m pointedly ignoring the bait, as you may have noticed. I don’t entirely disagree with you about Seidel. I know it’s a lot to process, the insight that people who are less than admirable might produce work that complexly expresses said less-than-admirable qualities. Take yr time with it. I have zero interest in arguing about it.
You’ve lost me there. Aren’t we saying the same thing, at least re Seidel.
Per that strange Electronic Noseclearance quiz about FSG authors, these economic times etc, though, I’d extrapolate from Seidel’s case to… well, all other excoriators, crusaders and satirists.
I know it’s a lot to process, the insight that the people who make the most noise about some malfeasance are also likely to be the biggest practitioners of said behavior. Take your time with it. I’ve been holding it at bay for years. It only gets funnier the longer we all postpone accepting it.
I think with practice you could come across as insultingly condescending & self-satisfied. Take yr time with it. It only gets funnier the longer you postpone treating yr interlocutors as if maybe they know just as much as you do.
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Phew!
I know, right?
I have to say, I’m pretty shocked, though.
I really thought it quite unlikely that the committee would a) reward the United States; b) reward a city whose principal accomplishment is its middle & upper classes’ indifference to the blithe art of the murder of schoolchildren; c) reward a mayor no less corrupt & incompetent & monomaniacal than his predecessors.
Really? I thought rewarding corruption, incompetence, and monomania was the IOC’s raison d’être.
The right sort of corruption &c., though. They’re not fond of American arrogance (who is?).
> who is
We fans of Frederick Seidel?
Seidel, who has written many poems excoriating American arrogance??
> excoriating
Doesn’t mean they don’t also enact it.
You know, what I wonder is what the hell ordinary Chicagoans think they’d be getting from having the games here. I’ve been reading comments on the Trib’s website, watching reactions from Daley Plaza—you’d think these people would actually have benefited in some tangible way if Chicago had won the bid to host the Olympics in seven years. Why would anyone who isn’t a real estate developer want that circus in town?
I know it’s a lot to process, the insight that the people who make the most noise about some malfeasance are also likely to be the biggest practitioners of said behavior.
Take your time with it. I’ve been holding it at bay for years. It only gets funnier the longer we all postpone accepting it.
I’m pointedly ignoring the bait, as you may have noticed. I don’t entirely disagree with you about Seidel. I know it’s a lot to process, the insight that people who are less than admirable might produce work that complexly expresses said less-than-admirable qualities. Take yr time with it. I have zero interest in arguing about it.
You’ve lost me there. Aren’t we saying the same thing, at least re Seidel.
Per that strange Electronic Noseclearance quiz about FSG authors, these economic times etc, though, I’d extrapolate from Seidel’s case to… well, all other excoriators, crusaders and satirists.
Looking forward to that issue of Granta!
I know it’s a lot to process, the insight that the people who make the most noise about some malfeasance are also likely to be the biggest practitioners of said behavior. Take your time with it. I’ve been holding it at bay for years. It only gets funnier the longer we all postpone accepting it.
I think with practice you could come across as insultingly condescending & self-satisfied. Take yr time with it. It only gets funnier the longer you postpone treating yr interlocutors as if maybe they know just as much as you do.